Flutie implicates Patriots in more cheating

Post by MBD
Apparently our old friend Doug Flutie implicated the Patriots in using an
additional frequency to send signals to Tom Brady after the normal
transmitter should have cut-off. Dan LeBatard first brought this to
attention. As per Flutie, he picked-up the wrong helmet and heard a voice
telling Brady what was coming. When he asked about it, the team told him
to drop it.
I've heard about this but had no proof. And Charlie Casserly mentioned
earlier this year how a defensive player last year was caught being mic'd.
Now there seems to be some proof. And would you doubt that the Patriots
would do this?
Amazing how far and fast the Patriots have fallen. At this point it might
not take *real* evidence to make most people believe they cheated all
through their SB runs. Although I hear that the evidence *is* coming.
But everyone does it, right?
MBD

I've always wondered, who monitors wireless systems during a game to
make sure they go on and are turned off when they're supposed to? Do
officials check every helmet to make sure only the QB's has a
speaker? I'm guessing not.

MBD

2008-02-07 18:12:51 UTC

Post by d***@altavista.com

Post by MBD
Apparently our old friend Doug Flutie implicated the Patriots in
using an additional frequency to send signals to Tom Brady after the
normal transmitter should have cut-off. Dan LeBatard first brought
this to attention. As per Flutie, he picked-up the wrong helmet and
heard a voice telling Brady what was coming. When he asked about it,
the team told him to drop it.
I've heard about this but had no proof. And Charlie Casserly
mentioned earlier this year how a defensive player last year was
caught being mic'd. Now there seems to be some proof. And would you
doubt that the Patriots would do this?
Amazing how far and fast the Patriots have fallen. At this point it
might not take *real* evidence to make most people believe they
cheated all through their SB runs. Although I hear that the evidence
*is* coming.
But everyone does it, right?

It's probably the same person who's supposed to make sure no one is
videotaping the opponent, much less their final walk-through.

MBD

d***@altavista.com

2008-02-07 18:46:04 UTC

Post by d***@altavista.com

Post by MBD
Apparently our old friend Doug Flutie implicated the Patriots in
using an additional frequency to send signals to Tom Brady after the
normal transmitter should have cut-off. Dan LeBatard first brought
this to attention. As per Flutie, he picked-up the wrong helmet and
heard a voice telling Brady what was coming. When he asked about it,
the team told him to drop it.
I've heard about this but had no proof. And Charlie Casserly
mentioned earlier this year how a defensive player last year was
caught being mic'd. Now there seems to be some proof. And would you
doubt that the Patriots would do this?
Amazing how far and fast the Patriots have fallen. At this point it
might not take *real* evidence to make most people believe they
cheated all through their SB runs. Although I hear that the evidence
*is* coming.
But everyone does it, right?

It's probably the same person who's supposed to make sure no one is
videotaping the opponent, much less their final walk-through.
MBD

I'm serious, is there no league official monitoring these
transmissions at each game to make sure teams don't communicate
without limits?

j***@webtv.net

2008-02-07 20:06:15 UTC

dvaoa wrote, "Do the officials check every helmet...?"

This year they put that green (yellow?) dot on the back of the helmet
that's wired to mark it. Whether they check them, don't know, but I
guess they were aware of the possibility (or probability) that other
helmets were wired in the past that should not have been.

John Kasupski

2008-02-09 08:55:37 UTC

Post by d***@altavista.com
I've always wondered, who monitors wireless systems during a game to
make sure they go on and are turned off when they're supposed to? Do
officials check every helmet to make sure only the QB's has a
speaker? I'm guessing not.

That would be up to the Game Day Frequency Coordinators, better known
as the GDCs. There was a nice article in the November issue of QST
magazine about the GDCs. At any typical NFL game, these guys are
responsible for coordinating more than 300 radio frequencies for
broadcast, referees, coaches and quarterbacks, as well as parking and
security frequencies, and more. basically, they coordinate anything
wireless that operates at an NFL game - and of course at a Super Bowl
the volume of radio traffic, and frequencies they coordinate,
increases exponentially.

Unfortunately, that article isn't available online, but this one is:

http://www.networkworld.com/news/2008/012508-nfl-radio-cops.html?page=1

That's a four-page article with links to the subsequent pages. If you
read all of it, you'll see that the Paitriots have been guilty of
bending the rules regarding game-day allocation of radio frequencies
in the past. They got caught by the GDCs, but it was deemed an
"accidental" violation at the time. Now, of course, we know better,
but this happened before everybody learned of the Cheatriots' total
disregard for such minor inconveniences as rules, ethical
considerations, and sportsmanship.

JK

Bender

2008-02-09 15:00:59 UTC

Post by John Kasupski
http://www.networkworld.com/news/2008/012508-nfl-radio-cops.html?page=1
That's a four-page article with links to the subsequent pages. If you
read all of it, you'll see that the Paitriots have been guilty of
bending the rules regarding game-day allocation of radio frequencies
in the past. They got caught by the GDCs, but it was deemed an
"accidental" violation at the time. Now, of course, we know better,
but this happened before everybody learned of the Cheatriots' total
disregard for such minor inconveniences as rules, ethical
considerations, and sportsmanship.

Is not enough being made of all this? I was skeptical at first but if
even some of what is being implicated is true I would think there is a
great possibility that the Patriots might be stripped of their titles.

<A big black on on the NFL>

Bender

2008-02-09 15:10:01 UTC

Post by Bender
<A big black on on the NFL>

LOL. That should read "black eye" on the NFL.

<sorry>

John Kasupski

2008-02-09 21:50:40 UTC

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j***@webtv.net

2008-02-07 20:01:29 UTC

MBD wrote, "Although I hear the evidence "is" coming."

While we're all loathe to have the government interfere with things,
this is going to be a case they will likely have to. People are going
to have to be under oath and face some penalties to get the truth out.
It does not seem that the NFL has gone into any deep investigation on
the matter. It worked out well for motivating baseball to do something
about illegal substance use, and it may do the trick here as well.

2008-02-07 20:49:54 UTC

not that i'm doubting you, but do you have a link to this story?

MBD

2008-02-07 21:49:04 UTC

Post by MBD
Apparently our old friend Doug Flutie implicated the Patriots in using
an additional frequency to send signals to Tom Brady after the normal
transmitter should have cut-off. Dan LeBatard first brought this to
attention. As per Flutie, he picked-up the wrong helmet and heard a
voice telling Brady what was coming. When he asked about it, the team
told him to drop it.
I've heard about this but had no proof. And Charlie Casserly
mentioned earlier this year how a defensive player last year was
caught being mic'd. Now there seems to be some proof. And would you
doubt that the Patriots would do this?
Amazing how far and fast the Patriots have fallen. At this point it
might not take *real* evidence to make most people believe they
cheated all through their SB runs. Although I hear that the evidence
*is* coming.
But everyone does it, right?
MBD

not that i'm doubting you, but do you have a link to this story?

http://www.realcities.com/mld/miamiherald/sports/columnists/dan_le_batard/q
a_forum.html?forumId=3393&mode=display&action=&type=list&pageNo=12

MBD

Geoff

2008-02-08 04:37:14 UTC

Post by MBD
Apparently our old friend Doug Flutie implicated the Patriots in
using an additional frequency to send signals to Tom Brady after
the normal transmitter should have cut-off. Dan LeBatard first
brought this to attention. As per Flutie, he picked-up the wrong
helmet and heard a voice telling Brady what was coming. When he
asked about it, the team told him to drop it.
I've heard about this but had no proof. And Charlie Casserly
mentioned earlier this year how a defensive player last year was
caught being mic'd. Now there seems to be some proof. And would
you doubt that the Patriots would do this?
Amazing how far and fast the Patriots have fallen. At this point it
might not take *real* evidence to make most people believe they
cheated all through their SB runs. Although I hear that the
evidence *is* coming.
But everyone does it, right?
MBD

not that i'm doubting you, but do you have a link to this story?

http://www.realcities.com/mld/miamiherald/sports/columnists/dan_le_batard/q
a_forum.html?forumId=3393&mode=display&action=&type=list&pageNo=12

Not that I'm doubting you, but do you have anything even remotely more
credible than the ramblings in a Q&A by a U of Miami grad published in a
rival city's rag?

--
Geoff O'Furman
Head Coach, Varsity Hockey
University of Ediacara
AA #22??

MBD

2008-02-08 20:25:00 UTC

Post by MBD
Apparently our old friend Doug Flutie implicated the Patriots in
using an additional frequency to send signals to Tom Brady after
the normal transmitter should have cut-off. Dan LeBatard first
brought this to attention. As per Flutie, he picked-up the wrong
helmet and heard a voice telling Brady what was coming. When he
asked about it, the team told him to drop it.
I've heard about this but had no proof. And Charlie Casserly
mentioned earlier this year how a defensive player last year was
caught being mic'd. Now there seems to be some proof. And would
you doubt that the Patriots would do this?
Amazing how far and fast the Patriots have fallen. At this point
it might not take *real* evidence to make most people believe they
cheated all through their SB runs. Although I hear that the
evidence *is* coming.
But everyone does it, right?
MBD

not that i'm doubting you, but do you have a link to this story?

http://www.realcities.com/mld/miamiherald/sports/columnists/dan_le_bat

Post by MBD
ard/q
a_forum.html?forumId=3393&mode=display&action=&type=list&pageNo=12

Not that I'm doubting you, but do you have anything even remotely more
credible than the ramblings in a Q&A by a U of Miami grad published in
a rival city's rag?

Nope. It is what it is.

MBD

s***@netscape.net

2008-02-08 20:40:42 UTC

Post by MBD
Apparently our old friend Doug Flutie implicated the Patriots in
using an additional frequency to send signals to Tom Brady after
the normal transmitter should have cut-off. Dan LeBatard first
brought this to attention. As per Flutie, he picked-up the wrong
helmet and heard a voice telling Brady what was coming. When he
asked about it, the team told him to drop it.
I've heard about this but had no proof. And Charlie Casserly
mentioned earlier this year how a defensive player last year was
caught being mic'd. Now there seems to be some proof. And would
you doubt that the Patriots would do this?
Amazing how far and fast the Patriots have fallen. At this point
it might not take *real* evidence to make most people believe they
cheated all through their SB runs. Although I hear that the
evidence *is* coming.
But everyone does it, right?
MBD

not that i'm doubting you, but do you have a link to this story?

http://www.realcities.com/mld/miamiherald/sports/columnists/dan_le_bat

Post by MBD
ard/q
a_forum.html?forumId=3393&mode=display&action=&type=list&pageNo=12

Not that I'm doubting you, but do you have anything even remotely more
credible than the ramblings in a Q&A by a U of Miami grad published in
a rival city's rag?

Nope. It is what it is.

It is what it is - nonsense.

"i've heard second hand about doug flutie being amazed when he got
there that the plays were being piped into his helmet warning brady
what was coming.....we've tried to talk to flutie on our radio show
about it but he hangs up on my producer"

MBD

2008-02-08 22:36:33 UTC

Post by s***@netscape.net

Post by Geoff
Not that I'm doubting you, but do you have anything even remotely
more credible than the ramblings in a Q&A by a U of Miami grad
published in a rival city's rag?

Nope. It is what it is.

It is what it is - nonsense.
"i've heard second hand about doug flutie being amazed when he got
there that the plays were being piped into his helmet warning brady
what was coming.....we've tried to talk to flutie on our radio show
about it but he hangs up on my producer"

I heard about this about a month ago, from someone else who I assume is the
1st hand person, who got it from Flutie. I just can't find the link.

MBD

John Kasupski

2008-02-09 09:13:25 UTC

Post by s***@netscape.net

Post by Geoff
Not that I'm doubting you, but do you have anything even remotely
more credible than the ramblings in a Q&A by a U of Miami grad
published in a rival city's rag?

Nope. It is what it is.

It is what it is - nonsense.
"i've heard second hand about doug flutie being amazed when he got
there that the plays were being piped into his helmet warning brady
what was coming.....we've tried to talk to flutie on our radio show
about it but he hangs up on my producer"

I heard about this about a month ago, from someone else who I assume is the
1st hand person, who got it from Flutie. I just can't find the link.

ESPN reported this too. As I recall, the story was that when Flutie
put a helmet on, he heard a voice telling Brady what was coming, when
he asked about it, he was told by the team to drop it.

JK

MBD

2008-02-09 14:56:36 UTC

Post by John Kasupski

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